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Tuesday Aug 12, 2025
Tuesday Aug 12, 2025
Andrew-Ryan Profaci thought he found spiritual truth, but instead became entangled in the bizarre world of a modern cult known as “Love Has Won.” Driven by curiosity and a deep desire for meaning, Andrew-Ryan quickly rose from outsider to insider, witnessing firsthand the manipulation tactics of cult leader Amy Carlson, referred to by members as “Mother God,” whom he once cared for deeply.
In this raw and honest conversation, we talk about:
- What initially drew Andrew to the cult known as "Love Has Won."
- A vivid portrayal of daily life within the cult.
- The leadership’s layered control tactics and massive financial exploitation.
- An individual who secretly orchestrated and controlled the cult behind the scenes.
- What really happened before and directly after Amy Carlson’s death, and why Andrew now speaks out.
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OUTLINE:
00:00 Introduction
02:26 What Is “Love Has Won”?
04:09 From Community to Cult
06:11 The Origins: Amy Carlson’s Intentions
09:47 Andrew’s Journey Begins
11:08 Searching for Meaning: Why People Join
15:41 Missing Self-Love and Authenticity
17:42 Manipulation & Control Tactics
18:57 Patterns in Cult Dynamics
23:51 Daily Life Inside the Cult
27:46 Recruitment and Indoctrination Process
30:26 Cult Hierarchy
33:10 Andrew’s Inner Conflict: Amy vs. “Mother God”
40:51 How Media Portrayed Amy Carlson
43:16 Behind the Persona: Why Amy Became “Mother God”
48:19 Miguel Lamboy: The "Hidden Hand"
56:03 Andrew vs. Miguel: The Proxy War
58:06 Challenging Amy’s Delusions
01:05:37 Descent into Darkness: Cult’s Final Days
01:13:23 Did Resistance Make Things Worse?
01:16:29 The Consequences of Leaving “Love Has Won”
01:23:34 Redefining Love and Trust
01:28:18 Amy’s Death: Tragedy & Questions Unanswered
01:42:48 Amy: Victim or Perpetrator?
01:47:36 Final Words to Amy
01:49:00 Why Andrew Speaks Out
01:55:59 Final Thoughts
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This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.
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